NHRA Pro Stock Shane Grey crash at zmax...2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGEA0vCytXw

zuvor wurde die linke Bahn beanstandet, der Gummi hat sich partiell gelöst... bekannte Situation, auch in der NHRA möglich...

Erica Endres (Pro Stock, Runner up des Rennens zuvor, Nationals in Indy und Gewinnerin des Rennens davor Brainerd) hat die erste Runde verloren, als sie an fast der gleichen Stelle nur "retten" konnte und in Führung liegend die Schirme zog und dann W. Johnsson vorbeiziehen lassen musste...

Luftfeuchtigkeit wird auch als Grund angeführt...

Auh da war jede menge Upset in den Eliminations und auchzwischen den Teams...

Markus

PS: Was will der uns damit sagen..
Things happen, even if they should not...

..."they really need to get the Track Fixed"...

v. Nobile...

Noch mal...


http://youtu.be/O7k-Y_OS7oo

? wie bitte ?

Sorry...Hab mich eben Vertan...

Hallo,

ist da von der berühmten Luftfeuchtigkeit die Rede, die immer so nach 1000 ft auftritt? :gruebel:

viele Grüße

Björn

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Zitat von Björn Lähndorf

Hallo,

ist da von der berühmten Luftfeuchtigkeit die Rede, die immer so nach 1000 ft auftritt? :gruebel:

viele Grüße

Björn

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Die Luftfeuchtigkeit wird dort zum einen mit den Fuelern und Kondensstreifen an den Flügeln ins Spiel gebracht, zum anderen mit als Grund beim Wetter, dass ich der "rubber dissolved" also wenn ich es richtig verstanden haben vom Beton ablöst. Zum anderen wird gesagt, dass die Fueler mehr anpressdruck haben, die Pro Stocker ja eher Aerodynamisch mit einem Light Paket ausgestattet sind und deshalb die fehlende Traktion nicht ausgleichen können, hinten leicht werden und die Gefahr abzufleigen groß ist.

Was ist das für eine "berühmte Luftfeuchtigkeit" die du meinst?

Finde es auf jeden Fall erstaunlich, das die NHRA samt der Kohle, Equipment und dem Know How auch vor Probleme gestellt wird, die ein rennen beeinflussen... (und damit will ich nicht wieder Hockenheim 2012 oder andere Europäische Rennen aus der Vergangenheit ins Spiel bringen).

Grüße, Markus

da gabs dochmal schonmal ne aussage zu von einigen pro stock fahrern
in der ging es mehr darum das die nhra nur 1000 " prepped eben für die fueler und die restlichen werden nicht so gut bearbeitet .
ich glaube warren johnson war das damals

jip Thorsten, genau die mein ich.

viele Grüße

Björn

Das ab 1000 Fuß der Belag anders aus sieht, das kann man erkennen, aber warum machen die denn die letzten 100 Meter nicht auch noch richtig? Verstehe ich nicht. Bei der Veranstaltung wurde aber außdrücklich auf die Strecke bezug genommen.

Am Rande... ein Kommentar bei en youtube Video... sinngemäß übersetzt: " der richtige schocker in dem Video ist noch gar keinem aufgefallen... Warren Johnsson in einem ungesponsorten Auto"...
Grüße
Markus

markus das weisst du doch selber
die nhra ist nicht besonders an anderen klassen interessiert
fuel ist alles was denen das geld bringt
wer mal drüben war wird das bestätigen können wenn fuel durch ist hauen die meisten leute ab
und deswegen ist es denen scheinbar egal ob sich ein pro stock heini zerlegt
betroffen getan wird hinterher immer aber richtg ändern tut sich nichts
und da die nhra ein us unternehmen ist wird da auch wert auf maximalen gewing gelegt und kleber und tracl prep kostet eben geld
gruss aus dem block

Die sparen an 100 Meter Kleber und Gummi... hätt ich jetzt auch nicht gedacht. Wäre davon ausgegangen, dass die Pro Stocker dort auch ein Standing, Ansehen haben, als Pro Klasse. Das Fuel dort alles ist, das ist schon klar... aber so krass auf die Savety der anderen pfeifen... bedenklich.

Danke und Grüße, Markus

ich suche dir mal den bericht von warren raus wo er im anschluss an einen lauf genau das sagt und er sollte es ja wissen
hier isser

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEGc5-3TFpc

üble Nummer
schon krass was die Jungs abziehen wegen im Endeffekt kleiner Summen! Jammern auf hohem Niveau im Vergleich zu hier aber naja...

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Zitat von Thorsten Appel

ich suche dir mal den bericht von warren raus wo er im anschluss an einen lauf genau das sagt und er sollte es ja wissen
hier isser

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEGc5-3TFpc

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Ich wußte das der Bericht wieder kommt.
Mann hab ich gelacht über den Professor.
Zitat:
" I'm not unhappy about loosing the run. Ron beat me and finnished and square, but the problem is that the both of us been so damn loose out there.
They treat these tracks just for the fuel cars. Hell, Ray Charles could drive one of them damn things in his current state. There is no talent requiered. All they have to do is just step on it. This race track is just flat ass dangerous"

Hier noch ein Bericht aus dem Jahr zuvor. Also nicht wirklich neu die ganze Sache
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSlnjTSOQmg

//Merlin

Danke, die kannte ich noch nicht... grüße, Markus

Hallo,

der Typ ist so trocken; das mit Ray Charles und top fuel wird in die Geschichte eingehen.

btw. ist schon etwas bedenklich wenn Leute wie WJ die für GM performance / goodwrench jahrelang Komponenten entwickelt haben und von denen gesponsored wurden mittlerweile leer ausgehen. Keine Ahnung was da los ist aber die pro stocker sind halt für US Verhältnisse schlicht am unteren Ende der Nahrungskette.

viele Grüße

Björn

Da die Wagen heutzutage im Gegensatz zu früher ja auch nichts mehr mit der Serie zu tun haben (technisch), sie sehen ja nicht mal mehr aus wie die Strassenfahrzeuge, hat diese Klasse auch an Bedeutung verloren.

Der Zuschauer sowohl in USA als auch bei uns ist "nur" an Top Fuel interessiert und die Fueler füllen die Tribünen. Das sportliche ist seit Jahr und Tag nur für die Teilnehmer selbst wichtig, den wenigsten Zuschauern auch in den USA, ist es wichtig was über die Saison hinweg passiert, es geht mehr um den Moment, um den Event. Schau sich einer die Merchandising Stände der Fueler an (NitroMall/DSR Racingtruck/JF Racing Truck etc.) und der jämmerliche Stand der Shirts für alle ProStocker und ProMods zusammen die an einem Stand verkäuft werden.

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Zitat von Björn Lähndorf

Hallo,

der Typ ist so trocken; das mit Ray Charles und top fuel wird in die Geschichte eingehen.

btw. ist schon etwas bedenklich wenn Leute wie WJ die für GM performance / goodwrench jahrelang Komponenten entwickelt haben und von denen gesponsored wurden mittlerweile leer ausgehen. Keine Ahnung was da los ist aber die pro stocker sind halt für US Verhältnisse schlicht am unteren Ende der Nahrungskette.

viele Grüße

Björn

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Hier mal der "Leidensweg" oder die Karriere eines Warren Johnson. Ist von seiner HP
http://www.warrenjohnsonracing.net/index.html

Das muß sich mal reinziehen. Wenn das keine Dedication ist weiß ich es auch nicht mehr.
Ich glaube dem statte ich mal einen Besuch ab nächstes Jahr

It's ironic that Warren Johnson (WJ) considers racecar drivers as "disposable as spark plugs". However, there are those very special Platinum Plugs that out perform all others and last an incredibly long time. Warren must be one of those!

Warren downplays his own driving ability, yet he has been honored as one of: Drag Racing's 50 Greatest Drivers and also was inducted into the International Motorsport's Hall of Fame. Quite the Honor and, I might say, well deserved!

Warren is an expert engine developer, innovator, team owner, and a strategist. One of his favorite sayings is: "Outthinking the competition is what appeals to me."

A Drag Racing Star, this 68-year-old, silver-haired grandfather prefers the intellectual challenge of racing to the adrenaline rush of head-to-head competition. Warren is complex, calculating, and cerebral, a brilliant engineer/racer who is analytical and occasionally cleverly controversial. Artfully dubbed "The Professor of ProStock", that unique title epitomizes Warren Johnson the Person, the Professional, the Drag Racer.

NHRA's Record Book testifies to his considerable driving skills. Warren is at the head of the Class for Pro Stock's statistical categories for: Victories, Runner-Up's, Final Rounds, #1 Qualifying Times, Low Elapsed Times, and Event Top Speeds. What a legacy!

His Professional Racing Career spans all of four (4) decades. Warren has achieved the status of "Senior Statesman" in the sport of Drag Racing. He is also playfully known a "Racing Encyclopedia." Warren has competed in 87 percent of the Pro Stock races since his involvement with the NHRA. He has also had a remarkable 25-year record of qualifying at National Events. In a class where horsepower and quick reactions win races, Warren is the undisputed "King of Speed". He has recorded Top Speed and even Record Setting Speeds at numerous National Events.

Humbly, Warren says, "This isn't rocket science. It's about racing 1,320 feet." Well, that's being very modest. Warren also says,"Drag Racing is an engineering exercise in its purest form; you either win or lose." Very true. However, horsepower, reaction time (most races are won or lost by .0010 second or less), lane choice, and (let's face it) downright nerve, make Drag Racing somewhat unique in motorsports.

Warren's determination and relentless work were forged as a young man growing up on a hard-scrabble farm in Minnesota's aptly named Iron Range. "What we were doing wasn't really farming; it was more like moving rocks around," Warren recalls. "Growing up on a farm was a great education for a youngster with an interest in mechanical things." Obviously, that has paid off -in spades- for Warren!

Long before he became the most prolific ProStock driver in NHRA history, WJ was an unknown soldier in an army of weekend warriors. He drove his modified '57 Chevy hundreds of miles to race on obscure dragstrips while his wife, Arlene, and son, Kurt. He'd get there, change rearend gears, re-tune the car, and head out to the strip. The Johnsons won their first race in 1963 at Minnesota Dragway. Little did they know at that time that there would be many more Victories (and Records) to come. Warren's ProStock career was an accident of geography. How so?

Well, being insulated from the fuel-racing frenzy of Southern California and isolated from the stock-car strongholds of the East and South, Warren concentrated on engine development during the long, hard Minnesota winters.
In his "spare time", he took extensive engineering, night classes while working full time in a steel fabrication shop. Even so, his heart always remained in that tiny garage behind his family home in remote, frigid, Fridley, Minnesota.
Warren ran his first race in ProStock in 1971. He had driven a Camaro home from a dealership and stripped it in his driveway, towed his homebuilt race car to Indianapolis, and qualified 28th in the 32-car U.S. Nationals Event, and was promptly defeated in the first round of eliminations.

That experience taught, the not yet titled "Professor", the value of patience, persistence, and believing in oneself. Warren won his first National Event race in 1982. He won his first Winston Championship Title in 1994. It was a tough, hard process for Warren to gather what he needed in: equipment, resources, and knowledge it takes to become a real Champion.

At the start, Warren financed his fledgling racing operation by building engines for his competitors. Not an easy thing to do considering his engine-building efforts for his competition, cost him victories. But, his personal victories were starting to add up. Campaigning a wicked handling big-block Chevy Vega, on poorly prepared tracks, provided Warren the ability to experience how to handle a racecar on virtually any racetrack surface. (That will come in handy in his later races - with lots of his newly created horsepower - on [to be kind] "difficult" racetracks.)

In 1975, at the age of 32, Warren made the decision to become a Professional Drag Racer. It was a bare-bones, family business: Warren, Arlene, and Kurt slept in their truck, took showers in friends' hotel rooms, and several times had to fix their broken down car hauler. Several breakdowns happened during frigid cold spells and snowstorms in the middle of nowhere. That's where Warren's inventiveness was sharpened. At the start, Warren told everyone that, "My plan was to start at the bottom and work my way up. We had no sponsorship money, - absolutely nothing. In retrospect, I had no choice but to make it work."… And that he did!

WJ made it work first by finishing as Runner-Up in the 1976 Winston Championship Event with a Camaro he later christened "The Incredible Hulk". Incredibly, through Warren's coaxing and undying efforts, it logged nearly 3,000 runs in six seasons of extremely hard racing. He finished Fifth in the NHRA standings in 1977 and seventh in 1978. Incredible for a rookie.

Cleverly, in the years 1979 through 1981, Warren decided to switch from NHRA races to IHRA races to test his abilities to develop massive cubic inch engines and run them with completely different car/engine/weight combinations. Predictably, Warren won two back-to-back IHRA Pro Stock championships and barnstormed his big-block Camaro on the Match Race circuit. (Meanwhile, he's perfecting his engine development, chassis modifications, and driving techniques for virtually any drag racing format.)

"You have to understand how to win; winning doesn't happen by accident." Warren explains. "I needed to learn how to race." … Well, he learned very quickly.

The Johnson family migrated to Georgia in 1981 to take advantage of the South's year-round racing weather. When NHRA replaced its complex system of Pro Stock weight breaks with a straightforward 500-Cubic Inch Displacement, 2,350-pound combination at the start of the 1982 season, W.J. returned to NHRA with tons of experience in hand.

Accordingly, Warren scored his first NHRA National Event victory at the 1982 Summernationals in Englishtown, NJ defeating reigning Champion Lee Shepherd in the Final round. The fans went crazy! Once he tasted that victory, Warren's appetite for winning became insatiable. He won at least one national event for 20 consecutive years — the longest active winning streak in NHRA drag racing history.

WJ utterly dominated Pro Stock in the 1990s, winning Championships in 1992, 1993, 1995, 1998, 1999, and 2001. He has won a total of 8 Championships: Six with NHRA and Two with IHRA. Unrivaled by any Professional drag racing driver. He won over 30 percent of the races he participated in and appeared in more than 44 percent of the Final Rounds. He claimed four consecutive U.S. Nationals crowns from 1992 to 1995 and ended the decade with his sixth career Indianapolis Title in 1999. W.J. reached drag racing's last great milestone with his barrier-breaking 200-mph run in April 1997, and in 1999 WJ made history again by running the top speed at every event on the Schedule.

Mechanical wizardry and technical innovation are the hallmarks of WJ's career. He introduced the Funny Car-style roll cage to Pro Stock and perfected the five-speed planetary transmission. Studying the innards of the internal combustion engine became a ritual with Warren. He continues to fine-tune the combustion chambers and every part of the fuel/combustion/exhaust cycles a 4-stroke engine performs. All his engine and cylinder head designs are uniquely his and are extremely powerful.

When Oldsmobile engineers launched a serious drag racing program to showcase the resurrected Hurst/Oldsmobile in 1983, WJ was the person they contacted. Warren re-worked the venerable big-block Chevrolet V-8 to create a strong, durable powerplant: the invincible Drag Race Competition Engine (DRCE). After nearly 30 years, the Johnson-designed DRCE still remains the foundation of General Motor's Pro Stock engine program.

WJ's Championship string continued right through The New Millennium. He won his sixth Pro Stock title in 2001 as the NHRA was celebrating its 50th anniversary. That year, Warren won six NHRA national events, qualified No. 1 three times, and out-pointed all his competitors. A true Champion.

Two Top Ten points finishes followed in 2002 and 2003. Warren went on a Classic "School's Out" Tour in 2005, announced only moments prior to the NHRA Opening Event at the Winternationals in Pomona, CA. It was met with an enthusiasm never before seen in the NHRA Pro Stock category.

At the end of that 2005 campaign, the Winningest Driver in Pro Stock history, WJ, again returned to the NHRA trail, ready to mix it up with both the established veterans and new, fledgling Pro Stock racers alike…. They found out that some lessons are best learned the hard way!

In May of 2010, Warren became the oldest Professional National Event winner in NHRA history at the age of 68 when he won the AAA Midwest Nationals at Gateway International Raceway in Madison, IL.

Warren Johnson continues to be a formidable force to be reckoned with in NHRA Full Throttle Drag Racing's most competitive class. He has earned the respect of his racing peers and millions upon milions of race fans.

As the 2012 season gets underway, 69-year old Warren Johnson still possesses all the fire, passion, and determination to win races. He is one of the NHRA's longest-running Champions. Moreover, he has found a new combination of power, ability to harness that power onto the racetrack surface, and to react to those Yellow Lights, like a "Bull to the Matador's cape". (Um,….my expression, not his.)

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Merlin